Comments on: new Springsteen, Floyd, Black Sabbath and an Eric Clapton boxset by Mid Valley

By: chambau

chambau — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:53:00 +0000

As I don’t own BBB, my comments to follow are regarding both Sigma releases. To my ears DW sounds better. It has more bottom end and the vocal are clearer. But keep in mind that the differences are minimal.

By: brianvy

brianvy — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:36:52 +0000

Which would mean it is an alternate source to “Your Favorite Disguise”? Did anyone else buy “Definitive Wall” that can comment? And can anyone confirm that more than one source even exists for 2-28-80? (available tape source was from the floor Sec A)

By: aleebee

aleebee — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:10:46 +0000

Correction to the above: ‘Hey You’ on ‘Definitive Wall’ is missing something like the first 70 seconds. It starts just before the second verse but, for me, the SQ is such an improvement that I accept the sacrifice. Presumably this means it is a different source to that used for ‘Brick By Brick’.

By: aleebee

aleebee — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:48:41 +0000

‘Definitive Wall’ has better than great Dane’s ‘Brick By Brick’, although that is still a great release. ‘DW’ loses some 10-15 seconds of the intro to ‘Hey You’ cf ‘BBB’ but I’ve not had an intensive enough listen to note whether the sources differ.

I don’t have ‘Your Favourite Disguise’ as I’m not prepared to fork out for the ‘alternate source’ recordings of dubious SQ that bump some releases from a 2CD to a 2 or a 4CD.

By: eric99

eric99 — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:18:42 +0000

And good luck with being able to afford them!

By: roertd7

roertd7 — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 18:46:25 +0000

So, MVR are putting out a 22 CD set of EC’s recent RAH shows. Good luck with the review is all I can say.

By: chambau

chambau — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:31:08 +0000

Does anyone got DEFINITIVE WALL already? If so, does it really sound different from YOUR FAVORITE DISGUISE?

By: chambau

chambau — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:09:38 +0000

DLee: I was pretty sure it was their 3rd title. Now I got confused. Maybe I mixed things up. To be honest, what first came to mind was the Oakland releases (Oakland 1977 and then Definitive Oakland).

By: Cliff

Cliff — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 10:43:27 +0000

Thanks for the info Bjarke. I had already found out about Lampinki, having seen the name under the Godfather version in the News and New Releases section the other day. Apparently, he taped more than 100 shows by a wide range of artists which I understand will all emerge in due course. It looks as if this will be a real treasure trove for collectors.

By: gsparaco

gsparaco — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 23:05:07 +0000

So far three Lampinski tapes have been reviewed on these pages for Yes, Queen and The Who. All of them are excellent tapes and the Springsteen tape should be the same (or similar quality). CMR will have reviews of both the no label and the Godfather versions of the tape.

By: Bjarke

Bjarke — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:58:25 +0000

@Cliff;
the Springsteen bootleg is an an audience recording by Dan Lampinski; shared on the web via DIME. It’s a real great recording – highly enjoyable….but don’t expect a SBD recording

By: DLee

DLee — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:50:26 +0000

3rd attempt, chambau? Are you sure? If so, then what was the first? I seem to remember “Your Favourite Disguise” as being their 1st rather than their 2nd. And sorry – I don’t plan on getting the newest one unless anyone or anything can first convince me that it’s significantly better than YFD.

By: gsparaco

gsparaco — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:31:09 +0000

Good question chambau. Is anyone actually getting it and can share their thoughts? Sigma don’t support this site so there isn’t any review planned. Sorry folks…

By: chambau

chambau — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:17:08 +0000

Does anyone alreay own this new Sigma “Wall” release? It is their 3rd attempt and, obviously, seems odd to me (considering the time frame from the 1st to the 3rd release). I own YOUR FAVORITE DESGUISE and I’m wondering it’s worth getting this new one.

By: lug_nutz6

lug_nutz6 — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:04:29 +0000

Very good point classicrawker. Looking at it from your perspective it does make sense, to provide the show separately for the non-rabid fans. From a marketing point of view…nice job Sigma, very thoughtful. And I completely agree with DLee that Boeblingen would be a much welcomed upgrade.

By: DLee

DLee — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:34:20 +0000

classicrawker, previous releases of the Nassau/Uniondale 1980-02-28 show such as your “Behind the Wall” were already great in quality, but if that’s the best that you own & thus don’t have Sigma’s 4-CD “Your Favourite Disguise”, then if you get their newest version, “Definitive Wall”, I’d say it’s rather likely that there will be enough of a noticeable upgrade in sound quality that you won’t have significant regrets. As for myself, though, I already have the “Your Favourite Disguise” 4-CD, so I’m very much wondering when Sigma will eventually release Floyd shows that are considerably more “urgently” in need of an upgrade, such as the Boeblingen 1972-11-15 show.

By: classicrawker

classicrawker — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:22:37 +0000

I don’t know lug I don’t think Sigma releasing the excellent show from the 28th as a seperate release is such a bad idea. For the hardcore fan this is probably redundant but for the casual Pink Floyd fan looking for the definitive release of this excllent source it is a good deal not having to pay for a 4cd set if they don’t care for the mediocre sounding show from the 26th. I have no interest in the show from the 26th so I am now tempted to buy the “Definitive Wall” release even though I already have the excellent “Behind the Wall” Box set.

Any opinions will I really hear that much of a difference between the version I have and the new Sigma release??

By: Cliff

Cliff — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:04:46 +0000

The Springsteen CD is quite historic, being the first show of the Born To Run Tour and the debut as an E Street Band member of Steve Van Zandt. It has only been available on CDR in an audience recording, so will be interesting to see whether the new release really is one of the best sounding early shows.

By: lug_nutz6

lug_nutz6 — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:07:20 +0000

0h those silly Sigma folks…are they running out of material? Maybe they have included the intro of ‘Hey You’ previously missing or patched in one from another show? Either way I’m thinking this would need a HUGELY positive review to get me to add it to the collection.