Comments on: Uncovering The Real Fakes At Last Pt. 4

By: sionxxii

sionxxii — Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:46:52 +0000

I just got a “real” Beset By Creatures cd.
Green Is The Colour on acoustic guitar live!!!
A very good sounding tape from back then, eh??

By: sionxxii

sionxxii — Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:46:03 +0000

There’s a guy on Discogs selling Sirenes from Florida as I type.
Took a chance on one but I already know I’ll get burned.

By: eric99

eric99 — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:22:28 +0000

“Oops I did it again”! Hehehe. Thats a good one, and yes, a real crime.

By: Plomerus

Plomerus — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:11:48 +0000

Futher, expect to pay roughly double the original price of older factory silver items and in some cases far more for the rarest on eBay or otherwise. It’s an individual’s choice to knowingly buy CDR titles pro or otherwise – but consider that you should only be paying what it’s actually worth for the format (for what you can do yourself more or less). I can live with paying $10-20 for a CDR item, perhaps more for a pro-CDR with exclusive content, but certainly not hundreds of dollars.

By: Plomerus

Plomerus — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:04:13 +0000

Again, there’s always a question everyone must ask themselves: Am I collecting for content or for the sake of collecting or both? What I’m striving to do with these articles is to educate new enthusiasts and provide references for the collector seeking releases professionally produced, primarily factory pressed silver. If one is simply seeking the content, fortunately all of these forgeries do contain the material they say they do…it’s not a situation where you’re expecting “Careful With That Axe Eugene” and getting “Oops I Did It Again” or something, but the issue is when sellers claim an item is the “real deal,” silver pressed when in fact they are not. I know those Pink Gem items came from a record show overseas, and in many cases they are somewhat rare shows, BUT they are CDR’s and often have the same title/art as the release they are copied from so if you’re after the original Highland or STTP or Heartbreakers release, then you’re going to be disappointed. There are other releases that are copies of previously circulated shn/flac files as well that have never been released on silver or are even more rare, so in those cases the Pink Gem items serve something of a purpose, but one could just as easily download the show in question and burn it to a CDR for free too. All that being said, nothing compares to real factory silver – for durability, longevity, and collectibiity. In many cases, fan-produced CDR’s are culled from lossy formats and thus don’t sound as good as the original CD or file, so that’s also a concern. Keep in mind that for older titles and silver in general, your best bet is to stick with tried & true distributors, the small private shops, and record conventions as opposed to eBay. If you are going to bid on eBay, request additional photos of the discs themselves, ask for matrix numbers, etc. Above all, remember if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is!

By: eric99

eric99 — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:16:10 +0000

tmoq has a good point about the ebay sellers.
I’m guilty of being stung by “Pink Gem”. I had to fill some gaps in my Floyd collection, and the seller conviently had them. Now, thanks to this site I know better. The thing is, this same seller has contacted me since I won these CD’s, about buying more. They claim to have bought them from a dealer at a record show. Be careful.

By: tmoq

tmoq — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:35:15 +0000

What drives me crazy is looking at the feedback for these Ebay sellers. You can click on recently purchased items when feedback is left and the vast majority of the feedback is positive-so either people are being duped into thinking they’re getting something rare or they simply don’t care that they’re paying for a crummy knock-off.

By: Plomerus

Plomerus — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 18:42:41 +0000

I’m all for an indentification “guide” period, and was even thinking it might be a good idea to include disc scans of new releases even in the future. As for Highland, the earliest item I have is probably Pink Floyd “Pepperland In The West” (HL172/173) which (although misprinted as “Remember The Wrong”) exhibits the “ring style” and I know that more or less remains in effect through at least the 400′s, my reference being Roger Waters “What Pink Want” (HL438/39). In the 500′s and above there’s the solid bar style, with the notable exception of Pink Floyd “Over The European” (HL163/164/165) which was either re-released later or not released until the 500′s range as it also has the solid bar. That being said, it would be great to see some of the earliest examples and other variations for sure!

By: vigotone

vigotone — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 18:02:38 +0000

As a Highland collector, I think it would be interesting to catalog the different disc styles as they changed throughout the release cycles. I know the earliest releases had unique graphics for each title, then they went to a very bland style with no graphics, just HIGHLAND written across the top with the title on the bottom. Then they went to the ring style shown above, then a grid background, and finally the solid bar you have pictured here. If anyone want to join in to get a comprehensive Highland listing going, I’m in!