Comments on: Pink Floyd – Westworld (Sigma 4)

By: sionxxii

sionxxii — Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:15:49 +0000

Sounds great to me.
Creepy Dave on Grantchester Meadow.
You know how hard it was to mike an acoustic guitar back then and make it sound good?
I’m constantly amazed how much the Floyd cared about sound and how to make it better.

By: gsparaco

gsparaco — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 23:29:54 +0000

No, I used the silver Highland release and the clicking of the reel-to-reel is audible. It’s not a mastering fault but a noise that was made during the taping of the actualy concert.

By: yenssongs

yenssongs — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 22:46:26 +0000

Dear Strumville, my vintage silver pressed Disc 1 Filmore (Highland) does NOT have any clickings. Maybe CMR reviewed a CDR copy only?

By: aleebee

aleebee — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 19:55:54 +0000

Lugnutz, I personally prefer the sound of Fillmore to Westworld but only just.

I have not heard this clicking on any of these and if I hear it now, my word! you lot are in trouble… :)

By: strummerville

strummerville — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 08:31:28 +0000

Here’s what CMR has to say about HL642/643:

“Fillmore uses a lower generation soundboard which sounds for the most part excellent. The tape still has the clicks on disc one which some roio collectors have corrected themselves. In all honesty the noises aren’t intrusive and seem to disappear in the fantastic performance.”

By: yenssongs

yenssongs — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:20:31 +0000

I checked Highland Filmore again. It sounds perfect. To my ears it sounds better than the Sigma release. My 48 year old ears do not locate any clicking noises at the Highland release.

By: DLee

DLee — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 05:16:44 +0000

Unfortunately I can’t seem to easily find my 2-CD-R copy of Highland’s “Fillmore” that GSparaco sent me a couple years ago, but I seem to recall that, at most, it probably sounds only a tiny bit better than the Sigma version – most prob. a tiny bit more crisp. If it has those same clicking noises that slightly plague the other versions, then it’s most likely not worth tracking down if you already have the Sigma #4.

By: lug_nutz6

lug_nutz6 — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 04:33:53 +0000

This has perplexed me a bit. Is ‘Fillmore’ really sound that much better. If I remember correctly the CMR for ‘Fillmore’ states that Highland’s version is also plagued with audio issues but sounds (only) slightly better than Sigma’s version of the show?. Is Highland’s version worth tracking down if I already have Sigma’s?

By: DLee

DLee — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 03:02:00 +0000

Lug_nutz6, that may be a good idea that’s worth it for some people, but for myself personally, the clicking noise doesn’t bother me significantly enough for it to be worth it. But if Sigma does go ahead & considering doing another upgrade, maybe they should check out & listen to the Highland “Fillmore” version, if they haven’t already, and try to upgrade that or improve on that – if possible in any way at all. Perhaps Zooey Deschanel’s dog or Meredith Vieira’s pets may dissent, even while hearing Cream, Led Zep, &/or The J. Hendrix Exp. boots, but that’s certainly OK with me.

By: lug_nutz6

lug_nutz6 — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 23:48:04 +0000

With regards to the distracting audio, this title may be a candidate for a self-upgrade by Sigma. Perhaps a ‘Definitive Fillmore West’? And YES, I would spend the money to get this concert in pristine quality.

By: DLee

DLee — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 02:13:19 +0000

Yes – unfortunately, now I’ve also heard & noticed the noise faintly in one channel on Sigma’s “Westworld”. It actually sounds sort of like a subtle but high-pitched ringing or chirping sound, as strange as it might be to describe it that way.

By: yenssongs

yenssongs — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:11:14 +0000

I prefer “Filmore” (Highland HL 642/643).

By: alucard72

alucard72 — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 08:53:33 +0000

Unfortunately, Sigma does have the infamous ticking sound (right channel only). It is for this reason that I rarely, if ever, listen to this show.

By: tcrone

tcrone — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 06:30:42 +0000

Thanks DLee…I have the Euro Boots “Pink Pigs” on original silver and the sound is constantly in the left channel only. It is a faint digital clicking sound. The sound is more prominent during quieter passages such as Grantchester meadows. I ordered “Westworld” anyway and I am hoping for the best because this really is an incredible show.

By: DLee

DLee — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 05:25:27 +0000

Well, I still have a factory-pressed silver original of Euro Boots’ “Pink Pigs Over Fillmore West”, and I don’t remember any clicking sounds (easily) noticeable on it, and I certainly can’t recall any clicking noises on Sigma’s “Westworld” either. If you could provide me w/ a specific example of exactly where you hear prominent clicking on your “Pink Pigs Over Fillmore West” (is yours an original of it, or just a CD-R copy?), then I can check that particular part of both titles (both of mine are originals) and let you know, although it might take me a couple/few days or so.

By: tcrone

tcrone — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 03:44:37 +0000

I have Pink Pigs over Fillmore west and just can’t get past the clicking sound that ruins this near-perfect show. Can anybody tell me if “Westworld” suffers from the same sounds or has Sigma once again performed a miracle?

By: aleebee

aleebee — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:22:55 +0000

On Westworld, the ‘patched in’ start of STCFTHOTS is from the Pepperland Auditorium, San Raphael, CA, Oct 17 1970. Or, at least, from Sirene’s ‘Pepperland 1970′ 2CD set: it is not on Highland’s ‘Pepperland In The West’. The track then reverts to the known Fillmore audio of STC but seems to be further intercut, at very short intervals. This gives the SQ a noticeable warble, although not intrusively.

I’ve yet to ascertain from where Highland’s ‘Fillmore’ pinches its STC intro.

By: aleebee

aleebee — Thu, 07 May 2009 12:11:52 +0000

I should maybe add that the packaging of ‘Pink Pigs…’ is better than ‘Magic Makes…’, having a heavy-duty booklet and tray-insert, whereas the inside of the ‘Magic Makes…’ booklet is blank. The photos are generally anachronistic, unlike Sigma releases.

By: aleebee

aleebee — Thu, 07 May 2009 12:02:12 +0000

Having done a side-by-side comparison, of sound quality, track length/ cue-points etc, ‘Pink Pigs Over Fillmore West’ (Euro Boots EB-30) is identical to ‘Magic Makes The World Go Round’, although the latter adds bonus tracks. I’m not sure which came first but one is a straight copy of the other.