Comments on: Rolling Stones – Complete ’73 Affair (Godfather Records GR334/335)

By: langbroek

langbroek — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 14:03:24 +0000

From wich source is the sydney bonus tracks, and do the have the hole show.

By: Rocker

Rocker — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:17:43 +0000

When all is said and done, this is one great Stones performance that deserves the finest mastering and a complete uninterrupted listen to fully appreciate the raw talent and inherent brilliance thereof.

By: dannyzero

dannyzero — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:53:29 +0000

I have recently received the Vinyl Gang release of this show, Goodnight Vienna, and it is indeed much better than and superior to the Godfather version. VGP’s release isn’t perfect (the levels fluctuate in some songs) but this very good audience recording sounds so much more natural and listenable, compared to Godfather’s “remastering”, which brightened the sound and made it sound hollow, tinny, and artificial (not to mention the gaps between the tracks on disc 1). To me the Godfather release was a chore to listen to. SODD is another label that simliarly “brightens up” Stones 72-73 shows and they sound similarly artificial like this Godfather release. Brighter sounding isn’t always better sounding than the original recordings.

By: Lordbud

Lordbud — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:02:31 +0000

VGP’s Goodnight Vienna stands as the definitive release of this show, folks.

Previous to VGP’s awful 1997 Tour releases their Product were hands down the best mastered CDs of Rolling Stones concerts.

Whoever did VGP’s mastering in the early-mid 1990s had the magic touch.

By: 70zboy

70zboy — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 04:17:34 +0000

I wish the release was just the 2nd CD. The first CD to me is a difficult listen. Perhaps a better source from 73 could have been used for disc 1. I have enjoyed almost all Godfather releases but this one is a dud.

By: dannyzero

dannyzero — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 01:24:17 +0000

To clarify, there is a brief second of silence before every track after track 1 on Disc 1, not Disc 2′s bonus tracks. There is a gap of silence right before the track flows into the next track. I have not problem with spaces between bonus tracks, as they are compiled from various concerts, but to have them on nearly every track on Disc 1 is very problematic. It’s a great concert, but the tinny harsh sound and the gaps are very disruptive to the flow of the concert.

By: dannyzero

dannyzero — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 08:43:53 +0000

I don’t have any other releases to compare this to, but the Godfather version sounds tinny, as if the treble was turned way up, producing a not very natural sound. My biggest complaint, one not mentioned in the review, is that there is a brief second of silence before every track beginning with track 2, totally disrupting the flow of the concert!! It reminds me of a bad concert CD-R that wasn’t programmed right or cross-faded and had spaces between each track. A big disappointment from Godfather records (along with Some Kind of Fashion (the last few tracks on disc 1 have some weird clicking noise on them)). If you can’t remaster it right, maybe you shouldn’t bother at all!!

By: Marjorieboy

Marjorieboy — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:55:31 +0000

Couple more corrections…’Live With Me’is from Jan 21st show in Hawaii. Also, they played 2 shows on Jan 22nd.
I did order this title hoping for SB source of Vienna show but knew it was too good to be true. ‘Can You Hear The Music’ is worth price of admission and thank you to CMR for this great review.
William. p.s. cup of joe to follow

By: Bjarke

Bjarke — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:22:08 +0000

What’s the big deal about Godfather getting the date wrong for Sydney 1973? It’s just a bonus track.
Point is; that this is the wellknown source for Vienna 1973, and to my ears – it’s just a EQ’d copy of the VGP release. And I do prefer the VGP release…as I think Godfather is almost like SODD when it comes to mixing….it’s brighter; but harsher and less more “dead-sounding”.
Comparing this one to the Exile Records release is a bit off….as Exile was a disaster – even worse than SODD and Godfather.
Thanks for the review….nice page you have got here.

By: gsparaco

gsparaco — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 21:35:36 +0000

Usually I reserve the benefit of the doubt to a label with these kinds of mistakes. Godfather produces a lot of titles every month from all kinds of sources and artists. Unlike some labels they don’t try to intentionally deceive people with their product.

By: brianvy

brianvy — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:14:26 +0000

Certainly a nice release for a newcomer to the 1973 Stones tour–something I (and probably many here) am not. For me, the bonus tracks, etc are just rehash.

I’m not trying to claim that the characterization of 9-1-73 was definitely intentional, but I’m very skeptical, as I feel buyers should be. The SB mislabel might also temp an oldie or a newbie to buy this product. Generally, Godfather releases are honest and good stuff. I’m just asserting my right to nitpick…

By: Marjorieboy

Marjorieboy — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 00:47:09 +0000

The Rolling Stones – Feb 16, 1973 – they were in Melbourne, Australia doing a press conference, TV interviews.

They played two shows in Sydney, Austrailia – Feb 26, 1973 and Feb 27, 1973. The Godfatherecords lable made a “typo” listing the Sydney tracks as 2-16-1973.

The Feb 26th, 1973 show has been released before as a soundboard, however, it is not complete because the first minute or so of ‘Brown Sugar’ is spliced in from the Perth show soundboard source and the last two songs of this show, JJF and SFM are missing from soundboard source and only available in audience.

William

By: Rocker

Rocker — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:10:51 +0000

This is the result of stuffing one’s face incessantly with too much turkey; my review oversight regarding the blatantly obvious date of 2-16-73 listed for the Sydney show has been released to death all over the planet, correctly put, on 2-26-73 of which I myself have at least 2 – 3 miscellaneous incarnations lurking around. To add insult to injury, GodfatheRecords themselves, believe it or not, had this all under their very thumbs without picking up on it as there is no 2-16-73 concert date included in the “1973 Winter East Tour” list that they provided in the tri-fold packaging liner notes of the above release and they most probably had been consuming too much turkey as well.

By: langbroek

langbroek — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 09:35:20 +0000

The vgp is a very bad production comparing to gr, this one is worth having.

By: gsparaco

gsparaco — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 06:46:23 +0000

The attribution of a soundboard recording for the Vienna show was a mistake made by Godfather. It is the same very good audience recording used by VGP and Exile. And while I don’t have the Vinyl Gang to compare, Exile really murdered this tape with the metallic crunch. Godfather doesn’t have that and sounds very nice.

By: brianvy

brianvy — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 06:17:21 +0000

I think the 2-16-73 date has been misattributed and the real date for the Sydney Randwick SB source is 2-26-73 (released on many CDs in the past). I don’t have this title to confirm that but it would seem logical… I also really do like reviews that compare previously available titles to the title being reviewed. So kudos for that, Rocker! Also, according to the label info that has been circulating, Godfather records are calling the main 9-1-73 source a SB, which i’m also surmising (based on the review) is incorrect and this is the excellent audience source. I wonder how this compares to the VGP release “Goodnight Vienna”? Exile has been roundly criticized in the past for over-equalizing/compressing metallicizing their pressings.